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Ivor Jones
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

"RH" <rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com> wrote in message
news:f350dl$p6r$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk
Quote:
Not sure why other have been so against your post as
most people complain companies do not listen to what
potential customer want. Maybe if SIPGATE had some
respect for their customers and listen to them, they
would not get so slagged off on here.

Strange, I've never had any issues with them. At least
they have an accessible website and email addresses
that work.

Ivor never said you had issues, never said I had issues
with sipgate but others had, any kind of company being
proactive with customer feedback should be welcomed.

Indeed. But a company that uses a munged address and doesn't provide a
website where you can check out their products is somewhat suspicious to
my mind.

Quote:
uk.telecom.voip would be far better if we had more good
constructive threads. Finding what people like in an ISP
service is far more constructive than your pointless THIS
IS SPAM messages, sometimes I think you enjoy being
spammed so you can get into high and mighty BS mode like a over zealous
traffic warden.

If you say so.

Ivor
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Ivor Jones
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:34:42 +0100, "RH"
rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com> wrote:


. Finding what people like in an ISP service is far more
constructive than your pointless THIS IS SPAM messages,
sometimes I think you enjoy being spammed so you can
get into high and mighty
BS mode like a over zealous traffic warden.

Course he likes being spammed how else would he get
noticed here or anywhere else .

And you don't reply to everything I post in order that you can get
noticed, do you, Ron..?

Ivor
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Ivor Jones
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:12:55 +0100, Desk Rabbit
nospam@example.com> wrote:


First ignore Ivor.
That had to come first .

If only you would, Ron.

Ivor
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

On Fri, 25 May 2007 02:42:48 +0100, "Rob" <nobody@this.place.invalid>
wrote:

Quote:

clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:mo6c53h6rbnh9c8emt6u7426nc7ijj03e9@4ax.com...

Take no notice Ivor is totally obsessed with spam.

And you wouldn't be totally obsessed with Ivor would you?

Rob

No I am not I am obsessed with anyone who goes on and on about such

things but there is ONLY Ivor that seems to do this .
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

On Fri, 25 May 2007 12:21:05 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:gs6c53lpmrltk4nb6ilunvlli02o8q22u1@4ax.com
On Thu, 24 May 2007 17:03:35 +0100, alexd
troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ivor Jones wrote:

"Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
news:f32j6p$a5h$1@news.freedom2surf.net

What makes this spam?

It's unsolicited. That's the definition of spam.

In your opinion. If you don't like the thread, just
ignore it.
He couldn't how else could he get himself noticed don't
forget he OWN'S this forum or thinks he does .

Newsgroup.
FORUM
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

On Fri, 25 May 2007 12:22:40 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:


Quote:
well a newsgroup
posting may not be email, but it's close enough.
FORUM


Quote:
Yes it was.

NO IT WASEN 'T
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Ivor Jones
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 25 May 2007 12:22:40 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:


well a newsgroup
posting may not be email, but it's close enough. FORUM

Yes it was.

NO IT WASEN 'T

Shouting and bad spelling all in three words, you're doing well today
Ron..!

Ivor
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Ivor Jones
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 25 May 2007 02:42:48 +0100, "Rob"
nobody@this.place.invalid> wrote:


clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:mo6c53h6rbnh9c8emt6u7426nc7ijj03e9@4ax.com...

Take no notice Ivor is totally obsessed with spam.

And you wouldn't be totally obsessed with Ivor would
you?

Rob

No I am not I am obsessed with anyone who goes on and on
about such things but there is ONLY Ivor that seems to do
this .

Pot, kettle, black...

Ivor
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Paul Cupis
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

On 2007-05-25, Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
Quote:


"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:f356ob$1v84$3@energise.enta.net
Ivor Jones wrote:
"Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
news:f32j6p$a5h$1@news.freedom2surf.net
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:5bjb8hF2srgukU1@mid.individual.net...
"Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
news:f305k2$fij$1@news.freedom2surf.net
We will launch a new VOIP service soon. We are
sounding out u guys n gals in this newsgroup!
Tell me what you would like from our service
No spam.

What makes this spam?

It's unsolicited. That's the definition of spam.

No it's not.

Unsolicited Commercial Email.

Pick ONE definition, please.

Quote:
It was certainly unsolicited.

Agreed.

Quote:
It may not have been commercial, but it looked like it to me.

It wasn't commercial, and isn't commercial. You jumped the gun and
didn't read the original post. An apology from you to the OP would be
nice, but I don't expect we'll see one. Nor do I expect you to admit
that you are wrong in this case.

Quote:
Email, well a newsgroup posting may not be email, but it's close
enough.

<groundless argument>
Email is not a newsgroup. Nowhere on the www.usenet.org.uk does it say
the word email, therefore you may not refer to it as email EVER.
</groundless argument>
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Paul Cupis
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

On 2007-05-24, Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
"Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j6oa535sum1fjgqvgb3lh9cl2fqqsdkikm@4ax.com
On Thu, 24 May 2007 10:21:38 +0100, "RH"
rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com> wrote:

I hate spam as much as the next person, spam as far as
I define it is ; 1 way blatent advertising.
this message did not advertise any company or product
and was a genuine question trying to bring up a
worthwhile discussion.

I agree, it the post did not advertise anything, so it
might not be considerd as spam - unless you consider it
as market research spam.

It's still spam. It was unsolicited and the poster doesn't give an email
address that is valid,

So speaks <ivor@depsammed.invalid>. Nice troll, Ivor.
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Paul Cupis
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

On 2007-05-25, Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
Indeed. But a company that uses a munged address and doesn't provide a
website where you can check out their products is somewhat suspicious to
my mind.

But they are not advertising anything nor are they inviting people to
contact them directly. They (whoever they are) are asking a simple
question on uk.telecom.voip, a discussion group, probably to illicit
discussion regarding VoIP in the UK.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

On 2007-05-25, Elia Finotti <eliaDOTfinotti@libero.it.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
"SBS" <no.spam@me> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:4656dc0c$0$36449$4fafbaef@reader5.news.tin.it...

Free geographic numbers (local rate, no national
rate) and the best audio quality (no delay).

(Obviously cheap)

And outgoing CID settable ;-)

As long as you can provide evidence that you "own" the number you want
to present, of course... Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

Infant Newbie (infant@newbie.new) ha scritto:

:: We will launch a new VOIP service soon. We are
:: sounding out u guys n gals in this newsgroup! Tell me
:: what you would like from our service

Free geographic numbers (local rate, no national
rate) and the best audio quality (no delay).

(Obviously cheap)
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Elia Finotti
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

"SBS" <no.spam@me> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:4656dc0c$0$36449$4fafbaef@reader5.news.tin.it...
Quote:

Free geographic numbers (local rate, no national
rate) and the best audio quality (no delay).

(Obviously cheap)

And outgoing CID settable ;-)
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

Ivor Jones wrote:

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"alexd" <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In your opinion. If you don't like the thread, just
ignore it.

Tell you what, why don't you ignore me..? I won't mind, honest.

It's difficult to ignore you when you post to every thread, dragging them
off topic to further your petty little agenda, you ignorant little
pig-fucker.

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