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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

On Thu, 24 May 2007 15:55:54 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:


Quote:
It's still spam. It was unsolicited and the poster doesn't give an email
address that is valid, nor a website to check out. Not signs of a
reputable company IMO.


Ivor go away until till you can think of some other words to type
besides spam there's a good chap you are totally obsessed with spam .
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:48:15 +0100, Desk Rabbit <nospam@example.com>
wrote:


Quote:
Make up your mind. If they had posted a web site you'd be complaining it
was spam now you are complaining its spam because they didn't post a web
site! FFS!
Fick in he .
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

Ivor Jones wrote:
Quote:
"Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
news:f32j6p$a5h$1@news.freedom2surf.net
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:5bjb8hF2srgukU1@mid.individual.net...
"Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
news:f305k2$fij$1@news.freedom2surf.net
We will launch a new VOIP service soon. We are
sounding out u guys n gals in this newsgroup! Tell me
what you would like from our service
No spam.

What makes this spam?

It's unsolicited. That's the definition of spam.

No it's not.

The OP was not spam.

On the other hand, if your reply was an answer to the question
suggesting that "no spam" was something you would like to see from the
OPs service, then good - I second the suggestion.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

On Thu, 24 May 2007 15:57:22 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
"RH" <rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com> wrote in message
news:f33no7$8qr$1$830fa795@news.demon.co.uk
"Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
news:f305k2$fij$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
We will launch a new VOIP service soon. We are sounding
out u guys n gals in this newsgroup! Tell me what you
would like from our service - OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR
PEACE Smile Any takers?
The Management.

Not sure why other have been so against your post as most
people complain companies do not listen to what potential
customer want. Maybe if SIPGATE had some respect for
their customers and listen to them, they would not get so
slagged off on here.

Strange, I've never had any issues with them.

But do not forget to tell people you are in their employ there's a
good chap or else you are an idiot it is one of the two .
At least they have an
Quote:
accessible website and email addresses that work.
But are very reluctant to provide paying customers with a support

phone number and provide personnel to man it I wonder why have they
not got the guts to face customers in real time I wonder .
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:34:42 +0100, "RH" <rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com>
wrote:


Quote:
. Finding what people like in an ISP service is far more
constructive than your pointless THIS IS SPAM messages, sometimes I think
you enjoy being spammed so you can get into high and mighty
BS mode like a over zealous traffic warden.

Course he likes being spammed how else would he get noticed here or

anywhere else .
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:12:55 +0100, Desk Rabbit <nospam@example.com>
wrote:


Quote:
First ignore Ivor.
That had to come first .


Quote:
And the foundation stone & secret ingredient that will keep you going
and bring in new clients every day - First class customer service & support.

And the support department being contact able by telephone and not
just by email .
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

Take no notice Ivor is totally obsessed with spam.

And you wouldn't be totally obsessed with Ivor would you?

Rob
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 5:46 am    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:34:42 +0100, "RH" <rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com
wrote:

Course he likes being spammed how else would he get noticed here or
anywhere else .

And if Ivor didn't post, you'd probably lose the will to live.

Rob
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

"alexd" <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3292333.hLYrBQ2OVN@ale.cx
Quote:
Ivor Jones wrote:

"Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
news:f32j6p$a5h$1@news.freedom2surf.net

What makes this spam?

It's unsolicited. That's the definition of spam.

In your opinion. If you don't like the thread, just
ignore it.

Tell you what, why don't you ignore me..? I won't mind, honest.

Ivor
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:gs6c53lpmrltk4nb6ilunvlli02o8q22u1@4ax.com
Quote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 17:03:35 +0100, alexd
troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ivor Jones wrote:

"Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
news:f32j6p$a5h$1@news.freedom2surf.net

What makes this spam?

It's unsolicited. That's the definition of spam.

In your opinion. If you don't like the thread, just
ignore it.
He couldn't how else could he get himself noticed don't
forget he OWN'S this forum or thinks he does .

Newsgroup.

Hello Ron. Tell you what, why don't you ignore me, I won't mind.

Ivor
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:f356ob$1v84$3@energise.enta.net
Quote:
Ivor Jones wrote:
"Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
news:f32j6p$a5h$1@news.freedom2surf.net
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:5bjb8hF2srgukU1@mid.individual.net...
"Infant Newbie" <infant@newbie.new> wrote in message
news:f305k2$fij$1@news.freedom2surf.net
We will launch a new VOIP service soon. We are
sounding out u guys n gals in this newsgroup!
Tell me what you would like from our service
No spam.

What makes this spam?

It's unsolicited. That's the definition of spam.

No it's not.

Unsolicited Commercial Email. It was certainly unsolicited. It may not
have been commercial, but it looked like it to me. Email, well a newsgroup
posting may not be email, but it's close enough.

Quote:
The OP was not spam.

Yes it was.

Quote:
On the other hand, if your reply was an answer to the
question suggesting that "no spam" was something you
would like to see from the OPs service, then good - I
second the suggestion.

It was that too.

Ivor
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

"Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
news:g46dnUiCWI_ALsjbRVnytwA@pipex.net
Quote:
Ivor Jones wrote:

[snip]

Quote:
It's still spam. It was unsolicited and the poster
doesn't give an email address that is valid, nor a
website to check out.

Make up your mind. If they had posted a web site you'd be
complaining it was spam now you are complaining its spam
because they didn't post a web site! FFS!

Irrelevant. It would have been spam whether they had or not.

Ivor
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:qb7c5398en5sh83bejebjk303vha441abp@4ax.com
Quote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:48:15 +0100, Desk Rabbit
nospam@example.com> wrote:


Make up your mind. If they had posted a web site you'd
be complaining it was spam now you are complaining its
spam because they didn't post a web site! FFS!
Fick in he .

Que..?
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:n47c539g2i0ojfsu6sch0orbj36cd1k357@4ax.com
Quote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 15:55:54 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:


It's still spam. It was unsolicited and the poster
doesn't give an email address that is valid, nor a
website to check out. Not signs of a reputable company
IMO.

Ivor go away until till you can think of some other words
to type besides spam there's a good chap you are totally
obsessed with spam .

Ron go away until till you can think of some other words
to type besides Ivor go away there's a good chap you are totally
obsessed with pointless replies to me.

Ivor
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Ivor Jones
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you want from a VOIP provider Reply with quote

"NicHughes" <nichughes@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
news:1180046710.454467.319030@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com
Quote:
On 23 May, 18:17, "Ivor Jones" <i...@despammed.invalid
wrote:
"Infant Newbie" <inf...@newbie.new> wrote in message

news:f305k2$fij$1@news.freedom2surf.net

We will launch a new VOIP service soon. We are
sounding out u guys n gals in this newsgroup! Tell me
what you would like from our service

No spam.


That's right, this is no spam. So they are off to a good
start on that requirement then.

With a Breidbart Index of precisely 1 it bears no
resemblance at all to the accepted definitions of usenet
spam.

If you say so. I beg to differ.

Ivor
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