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 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed configuring voip.co.uk |
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 08:19:50 GMT, "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com
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sorry but its been working fine here for over 6 moths with STUN
And it has been working fine here for over 12 months now without
STUN .
you've missed the point - the comment that was made was that STUN was sure |
to cause problems with voip.co.uk. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed configuring voip.co.uk |
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:25:47 GMT, "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com>
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clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 08:19:50 GMT, "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com
wrote:
sorry but its been working fine here for over 6 moths with STUN
And it has been working fine here for over 12 months now without
STUN .
you've missed the point - the comment that was made was that STUN was sure
to cause problems with voip.co.uk.
And I was told by voip.co.uk that using stun CAN cause problems with |
their service . |
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Tim
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed configuring voip.co.uk |
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Roger wrote:
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you've missed the point - the comment that was made was that STUN was
sure to cause problems with voip.co.uk.
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As discovered by the original poster, voip.co.uk use whether the IP
address is an RFC1918 address to work out how they treat the call.
If you use STUN (and it works correctly) then you won't report an
RFC1918 address to voip.co.uk, and they may treat your call as if you
are on a public IP address. If you are natted, then this may cause a
problem.
Tim |
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Roger
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed configuring voip.co.uk |
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<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:25:47 GMT, "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com
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clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 08:19:50 GMT, "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com
wrote:
sorry but its been working fine here for over 6 moths with STUN
And it has been working fine here for over 12 months now without
STUN .
you've missed the point - the comment that was made was that STUN was sure
to cause problems with voip.co.uk.
And I was told by voip.co.uk that using stun CAN cause problems with
their service .
Strange - I thought "CAN" and "SURE TO" were two very different things but |
then again after a year of sipgate service maybe my english deteriorated as
much as my phone service (stands back and waits for the Ron/Ivor tag team to
take over the thread)  |
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Port Admiral Haynes
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:10 am Post subject: Re: SPA3102 Setup |
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"Paul Hayes" <nomailforme@polog40.org.uk> wrote in message
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Port Admiral Haynes wrote:
I have a Linksys SPA3102 on its way to me. I am going to use it with
VoipDicount. At the moment I am using VopiDiscount via a Linksys PAP2T
(see my previous post "Starting Again") but now want to integrate my BT
Line. Setting up the SPA3102 to use VoipDiscount will not be a problem as
there are some configuration settings on their page.
However I want to set it up so that all landline calls to the UK,
Singapore and Malaysia go out via VoipDiscount and all others go out via
my BT Line. For this I think I need to use Dial Plans (but not certain!)
If the SPA3102 is anything like the PAP2 it will come with zero
instructions.
Am I right that I need to use dialling plans and can anyone point me to a
page that explains how I can achieve this?
Thanks
The manuals can be found on the Linksys website. Also in here:
http://www.provu.co.uk/support.html
The dialplan can be complicated but it just requires a bit of patience to
get right.
cheers,
Paul.
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Many thanks - I am sure I will be back regarding the dialling plans! |
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LVMarc
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:26 am Post subject: Re: PSTN to Voip-guide to energy daving pstn to voip adapter |
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Nick wrote:
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Brian A wrote:
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:24:00 -0800, LVMarc <LVMarc@att.net> wrote:
A new guide shows how much energy is saved by small diferences in
product energy consumption. Perhaps now is a good time to consider
the value of ultra low powered devices.
http://reviews.ebay.com/Energy-Saving-consumer-products-and-VOIP-PSTN-adapters_W0QQugidZ10000000002996002
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300081606053&ih=020&category=1503&rd=1&ssPageName=mem_guide:2
This is something I have been commenting on for a long time in
relation to services that require the use of a PC to operate (e.g.
Skype etc.) I maintain that you need to add the cost of running
hardware to the cost of your telephone service.
Even a very modest modern PC consumes 70Wh (without the monitor) -
many others take much more.
I did an audit on hourly power consumption of other devices in my
house when on standby.
This might surprise you:-
Sky box 19W
Netgem DTT STB 8W
DVD 16W
VCR 5W
Hard disk DTT recorder 23W
Cordless phone (satellite NOT main base) 2W
There are 4 cordless phones in total but it isn't practical to switch
those off. The remainder of the above items, however, use up approx.
52 units of electricty per month. That's 624 units per year. At
9p/unit that's GBP56/year! A 70W computer (AMD64 2800 for example),
running 24/7 for Skype, would ADD another GBP 55/year to that.
I don't leave my PC switched on and I have since unplugged most of the
above. The Sky box is now on a timer so it is switched off during the
night.
Actually I think the VOIP device energy saving predictions based on a
seven year life span are clearly silly. Most devices get binned long
before 7 years.
However a time switch on a socket that services many small devices
around say a TV or PC does sound sensible.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
seven yars is the modeled lifetime of typical consumer products. The |
combine-a-line will last even longer thasn that! The seven yeas is
also the balamce point for a 42 dollar net savings which is equal to the
typical price of these adapters.
as you noted the power levels were much higher than the 4.2 watts I
used! so the payback and energy waste is eve higher than stated..
Thanks for reading
Marc |
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Jono
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: Re: PSTN to Voip-guide to energy daving pstn to voip adapter |
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After serious thinking LVMarc wrote :
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seven yars is the modeled lifetime of typical consumer products. The
combine-a-line will last even longer thasn that! The seven yeas is also the
balamce point for a 42 dollar net savings which is equal to the typical price
of these adapters.
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How old's your keyboard? <grin> |
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Robert Phoenix
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: Re: Setting a personal VoIP network |
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Hongtian wrote:
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If you have MS-Windows based computers, I suggest you can try
miniSipServer and X-lite to setup your own VOIP network. But before
that, you shall confirm that VOIP is permitted in your country.
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What about setting up a Virtual Private Network between the two PCs (or more
generally between the private LANs at the two addresses). This is a
Networking matter rather than VoIP, but it is relevant as it then makes the
end to end VoIP almost trivial.
If you are using a private network (which in effect you are over a VPN) you
don't need to worry (from a technical viewpoint) about anything in the
middle. If the VPN works at all, it should work for all traffic as the
traffic is encrypted and not viewable by entities in the middle. This also
enhances the privacy of the call.
There may be legal aspects (DYOR; I am Not a Lawyer) but technically I can't
see why a private VoIP network would ever NOT be protected by VPNs. |
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Torsten Mann
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: voip wifi phone recommendation needed |
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Linker3000 wrote:
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Stephen Hammond wrote:
or are they all too dear
Setphen
Is the Siemens Gigaset C450IP any good for you - it's not wifi but a
DECT/SIP phone with a base station that connects to both your network
via an RJ45 socket and to your regular landline (if you wish). I have
used one both direct to voip.co.uk and via an Asterisk server.
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I use the C450IP with Gizmo-Project/sipphone.com and it just work's
great. Since I do not have a regular fixed phone line I bought a Buffalo
G54S Router and set them up as a Client to catch Wifi internet access
from my landlord :
C450IP hooked up to the Buffalo's RJ45 Jack and the Buffalo connects
(kinda bridge) via WIFI to my landlords wifi router. That's it and it
works out great since I do not activate STUN capability.
Brgds, Torsten. |
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fa103
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: Re: GROUND BREAKING NEW VOIP SERVICE---choose from over 2 mi |
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On Mar 2, 4:51 pm, Herman the German <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
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On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:03:48 GMT, "Harry Stottle"
sorryspamdoesntw...@nospam.uk.co> wrote:
And I suppose the next message is going to be:-
Thanks for saying "Glad you are happy with it"
You are fooling nobody except yourself.
Indeed. All he has done is alienate a number of potential customers.
His loss, I guess.
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Hi Alienate a group of customers? How have i managed that.. honestly
with all sincerity i would love you all to be part of the connexin
team. I would really value any feedback you cna give me. The aim of
this group was to be a Q&A for people enquiring about VoIP and to
improve connexin which is a young growing company.
I look forward to your replies.
F |
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MathMan
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:59 am Post subject: Re: GROUND BREAKING NEW VOIP SERVICE---choose from over 2 mi |
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On 9 Mar 2007 11:52:48 -0800, "fa103" <f.alamgir@connexin.co.uk>
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I look forward to your replies.
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Perhaps you missed this post from two weeks ago
On 22 Feb 2007 05:10:33 -0800, "fa103" <f.alamgir@connexin.co.uk>
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Why are connexin hiding their trading address from their customers?
Our company Address is written
very clearly on the governments companies house website.
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Company No. 05823408, 6 Silver Street, Hull
Dutton Moore. Your accountants
(http://www.griffincharteredaccountants.co.uk/contact.asp)
Connexin Limited, Suite 23, 28 Old Brompton Road, Kensington
Anonymous rented mailbox
(http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/directory/1257/5052.php)
So I ask again, why are connexin hiding their *trading* address from
their customers? |
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fa103
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: GROUND BREAKING NEW VOIP SERVICE---choose from over 2 mi |
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On Mar 9, 9:59 pm, MathMan <math...@scientist.com> wrote:
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On 9 Mar 2007 11:52:48 -0800, "fa103" <f.alam...@connexin.co.uk
wrote:
I look forward to your replies.
Perhaps you missed this post from two weeks ago
On 22 Feb 2007 05:10:33 -0800, "fa103" <f.alam...@connexin.co.uk
wrote:
Why are connexin hiding their trading address from their customers?
Our company Address is written
very clearly on the governments companies house website.
Company No. 05823408, 6 Silver Street, Hull
Dutton Moore. Your accountants
(http://www.griffincharteredaccountants.co.uk/contact.asp)
As well as onwww.connexin.co.uk
Connexin Limited, Suite 23, 28 Old Brompton Road, Kensington
Anonymous rented mailbox
(http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/directory/1257/5052.php)
So I ask again, why are connexin hiding their *trading* address from
their customers?
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The Connexin trading address is 6 silver street hull, however you can
have a different address as a business address which is suite 23, 28
Old Brompton road, London. We use it to route our packages. We are a
telecoms provider hence dont really need a default premesis to work
from, Most of our work is done from remote locations we are never
really in one city at one time, as we are also a telecoms consultancy.
Regards,
F |
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News Reader
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| Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: Re: Revenues, Charges and Terminology in Telco Charging, Rev |
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** (Re-posted to include uk.telecom.voip - I meant to include that group -
insights into the nature and charges / revenues on the VoIP side would be /
is interesting to) **
"News Reader" <no@email.invalid> wrote in message
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Hi,
I am hoping someone can clarify on terminology and provide some insight on
rates for revenue from termination and origination and charges for
transit.
For example, as I understand it, if someone calls from Virgin Media,
Virgin Media will receive a proportion of call revenue for carrying the
call up to the boundary of their network (where they pass the call to for
example BT wholesale for onward routing / termination [e.g. if the caller
is calling an 0800 number Virgin Media will receive some of the payment to
the terminating operator for the part of the call carried by their
network] [if a normal call - e.g. landline call to the UK - Virgin Media
would charge the caller e.g. 1p/minute and then pay a termination provider
for that part of the call beyond their network boundary - for example BT
at say 0.5p/minute]). Likewise, I understand they receive a proportion of
revenue if someone calls a Virgin Media phone for that part of the call
they have carried into / on their network (i.e. from where it comes onto
the Virgin Media network at its boundary [e.g. from BT] through to the
destination phone on the Virgin Media network).
Can someone confirm the terminology for each part / side (or parts /
sides) of the routing transaction (both in terms of the call handling /
routing / process and the same for the revenue and charging sides of the
operation)? Also information about rates for each part of the process
(approximate or average) would be great or interesting .
Many thanks and best wishes,
News Reader
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LVMarc
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:09 am Post subject: Re: PSTN to Voip-guide to energy daving pstn to voip adapter |
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LVMarc wrote:
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Nick wrote:
Brian A wrote:
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:24:00 -0800, LVMarc <LVMarc@att.net> wrote:
A new guide shows how much energy is saved by small diferences in
product energy consumption. Perhaps now is a good time to consider
the value of ultra low powered devices.
http://reviews.ebay.com/Energy-Saving-consumer-products-and-VOIP-PSTN-adapters_W0QQugidZ10000000002996002
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300081606053&ih=020&category=1503&rd=1&ssPageName=mem_guide:2
This is something I have been commenting on for a long time in
relation to services that require the use of a PC to operate (e.g.
Skype etc.) I maintain that you need to add the cost of running
hardware to the cost of your telephone service.
Even a very modest modern PC consumes 70Wh (without the monitor) -
many others take much more.
I did an audit on hourly power consumption of other devices in my
house when on standby.
This might surprise you:-
Sky box 19W
Netgem DTT STB 8W
DVD 16W
VCR 5W
Hard disk DTT recorder 23W
Cordless phone (satellite NOT main base) 2W
There are 4 cordless phones in total but it isn't practical to switch
those off. The remainder of the above items, however, use up approx.
52 units of electricty per month. That's 624 units per year. At
9p/unit that's GBP56/year! A 70W computer (AMD64 2800 for example),
running 24/7 for Skype, would ADD another GBP 55/year to that.
I don't leave my PC switched on and I have since unplugged most of the
above. The Sky box is now on a timer so it is switched off during the
night.
Actually I think the VOIP device energy saving predictions based on a
seven year life span are clearly silly. Most devices get binned long
before 7 years.
However a time switch on a socket that services many small devices
around say a TV or PC does sound sensible.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
seven yars is the modeled lifetime of typical consumer products. The
combine-a-line will last even longer thasn that! The seven yeas is
also the balamce point for a 42 dollar net savings which is equal to the
typical price of these adapters.
as you noted the power levels were much higher than the 4.2 watts I
used! so the payback and energy waste is eve higher than stated..
Thanks for reading
Marc |
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David G. Bell
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: Re: BT in FTTH "first" |
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On Tuesday, in article <461209DF.124C6AAD@hotmail.com>
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com "Eeyore" wrote:
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Sunil Sood wrote:
BT has announced a ground-breaking fibre to the home (FTTH) deal with UK
real estate investment trust Land Securities and British Sky Broadcasting.
Whay *exactly* is ground-breaking about this ?
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Presumably, instead of BT installing phone lines, and another company
installing cable, and however many other etceteras your fevered mind can
come up with, It's all on one network, and one wire/fibre/wet-string per
house.
Which means that they'll have the local fibre capacity of Movies on
Demand, but I wonder whether they'll have budgeted for a big enough pipe
to the rest of the universe.
--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.
On the horizon, a carrier task force of the Salvation Navy was
turning into the wind, preparing to launch Zeppelins. |
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